I think it was Ben Franklin who said "It is better to remain silent and have others think you are a fool than to speak and remove all doubt," John Ferrell W8CCW "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke ...."The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." MARGARET THATCHER http://DixieNC.US -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist