Summary of my Arch Experiment until yesterday. http://mcuee.blogspot.com/2009/04/arch-linux-revisited.html So I continue with my Arch Experiment. I removed Gnome, tried LXDE and XFCE, both work fine. Then I tried slim as per your suggestion, it is fine. But it is not easy to change language sessions as easy as gdm. So I reinstalled gdm. Put network dameon in the background does improve the boot speed by quite a bit (using dhcp here). Thanks for the tip from Solarwind. LXDE is really very fast. Now the slowest application to start seems to be Firefox. I have Java based EIoffice which seems to be much faster than OpenOffice. XFCE is not as fast but seems to offer more programs. Still I need to carry on the experiment to see if I can really avoid Gnome and KDE. -- Xiaofan http://mcuee.blogspot.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist