Agreed on the OS debate in general terms. But I think the RedHat CEO said it because he can't SELL Linux on the desktop to corporate customers... they have no need for it, and may not ever... He has to focus on what makes his company money, and it wasn't the desktop. It was the servers. *I* say the desktop doesn't make money because Linux isn't offering business anything they don't already have and budget for. They look at the "Free!" price tag with a (properly) jaundiced eye... knowing that nothing is truly "Free!" in business. There's support costs, re-training, etc... Linux on the desktop has always been a copy-cat OS. Sure, 3D spinning cubes rotating to show different virtual desktops and things is "nifty", but not a "must have" for business. The qualities in a desktop interface that business needed were pretty much covered with the very first release of Mac OS... the mouse was a giant leap forward in user interface (thanks to Xerox PARC, where Apple got the idea) at the same time. Linux comes up with something that causes the desktop to make people (and yes, I mean the word "make", not "help") more productive at the jobs they do in "normal" business, it'd take over until the other guys could copy-cat it. Linux's "openness" is a downfall there... a copy would be forthcoming VERY quickly, and the commercial guys would be able to say, "we added that feature, but you won't have to retrain everyone else on that other Linux *stuff*". Linux on the desktop is pretty much stuck in a weird world of nifty things and uselessness, likely forever. Nate -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Tamas Rudnai Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 1:50 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [OT] KDE 4.2 Desktop Anyway, I am not saying Linux is better desktop than X or Z, but I highly doubt if the OS itself with the windowing system can be pronounced as non-desktop and server-only operating system - I think the boss of RedHat just said what he said because desktop users are using Ubuntu nowadays instead. Tamas -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist