Either way, we need good coders who know what they're doing. Part of the reason that most microsoft products are quality is because of the tight quality control they have in place. And by tight I mean tight. In the open source world, we have no such quality control. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist