> > On Apr 5, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Funny NYPD wrote: > > well, I have been following this topic since it starts. > On the surface, we saw the US and world economy is sinking and > people losing jobs. At first, everybody says, "Oh, it is just a USA > problem", and now, "Oh, it is a world-wide problem due to the > economy-tie and bank-ties". It is world-wide because economies are tied together and because "country leaders" are all pursuing the same "fix". > > > I have started thinking why this is happening, since all the economy > pain starts. And I have listened to the medium (radio, TV, news > papers) from time to time to know who is being blamed at the time. > > Listening to those "free-medium" opinions but not being brain-washed > is not a easy job. (Today's medium has done a marvelous job on brain- > wash regular Americans for the government and for the bankers. If > you still think USA a real "free" country, probably not true in the > medium world. When you turned on TV or Radio, most likely you will > hear the same voice/opinion: the government voice ~= the banker's > voice.) > > I am not sure I totally understand what's going on, but from what I > have seen, the US is losing competition capability on overall size. The US is still full of competitive business people. The US is sinking because the government has spent much more than they receive in taxes. The government also discriminates against successful businesses. ( Think of Ford vs GM. ) > > >> From eduction quality to company management, the whole US society >> is slowly falling behind the creative/innovation leaders of the >> world. Maybe the MBA education system is the root-cause of this >> failure? Who knows. Pretty much every entrepreneur world-wide suffers the same handicaps that a entrepreneur in the US faces. Productive people are leeched on, regulated, despised by many , and blamed for things that the leeches actually cause. >> > > The management (for business or government) itself is science and > art. But none of the MBA graduates I knew really knows what science > is or what art is. > > So, when cooking the finical books just became the main stream of > the street this country will be lead into trouble. (if you know how > to cook the book, you will be qualified for big bonus by bailed-out > money, maybe, the tax-payer's money. Thank god, now most of them > will be taxed back due to the new law, bad news, isn't it?) First, > Enron, WorldCom, now the Madoff ponzi scheme, and the broken bank > system. Is there a tie on all those event? Wall street, people may > say. Maybe? But is Wall street the root-cause? I personally don't > think so. (No public-medium seems to be interested on finding out > how Madoff be the chairman of wall street for such a long time and > how to prevent this kind of Madoff-the-second happen all over again.) Madoff , Enron , WC , are minor problems compared to the trillions of dollars, euros, etc. that have been pissed down ratholes by government leeches and their cronies. And of course, the straitjacket they continue to tighten on productive people. > > > What we have seen is more and more fake financial system for quick > money and less and less innovation/creation on science and > technology. Spending more time for easy money rather than spending > time on the hard and boring mathematical and science has been > popular for years on this society, and this may be the root-economy- > cause of this country. Can this be reversed in one day? I don't know. > > It may take couple of generations to get all those lost root back. > Hopefully, American will still be strong, so will be the US $. You can have hope even when the probability is near zero. Short of a revolution like the one that occurred in 1776 ( and it would have to occur in some economically major countries ) , the best standard of living for the most people has already occurred. We face centuries of decline as leeches and liars suck the guts out of human productivity. > > > Funny N. > Au Group Electronics, http://www.AuElectronics.com > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joseph Bento > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2009 10:46:19 AM > Subject: Re: [EE] Where have all the technicians (and jobs) gone? > > > On Apr 5, 2009, at 6:22 AM, Olin Lathrop wrote: > >> Joseph Bento wrote: >>> What we are beginning to see is unprecedented. They can talk >>> historical recovery of the markets all they like, but the US economy >>> is no longer tied to just the USA. If we are seeing the beginning >>> stages of global equalization, >> >> We are not beginning to see it. Where have you been the last 20 >> years!!? >> Globalization has been going on for quite a while already. This >> probably >> explains why you got stuck getting dumped instead of seeing it >> coming and >> doing something about before it was too late. > > No, Olin. I did something about it three years ago. The company I > was working for was in PHEV (plug-in hybrid electric vehicle) > development with ideas and concepts that are not available in any > currently developed vehicle. I can neither 'show off' nor discuss my > work with any potential employer beyond the most generic descriptions > due to confidentiality agreements. All our work completed thus far > will likely be sold off to an unnamed partner. > > I was not at a bench fixing two-way radio and TVs - I got out of that > business years ago. With the vehicle development, we were led to > believe by the CEO and investors that what we were doing was so > valuable, that our stock options would eventually skyrocket. There > was no reason not to believe them with the current demands for > alternative energy. The job was exciting, working with new > technologies. That morning a couple weeks ago was a bombshell to all > involved when we were all called into the conference room as a group, > and then individually to discuss our severance. > > Two way radio and working for public safety years ago was 'safe' but > not terribly well paying. I took the gamble with something I thought > had a great future, and now I'm looking because of it. > > Joe > > - -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist