At 10:10 AM 4/5/2009, you wrote: >On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 23:45, John Day wrote: > > At 01:09 AM 4/4/2009, you wrote: > > > Just look carefully at the word professional. If you are a technician > > then by definition you are not a professional. > >Your definition of definition is by definition not definite. > >First hit on dictionary.com for "professional": > >=ADadjective >1. following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain: a >professional builder. Touche! Yes, the dictionary definition of professional is = rather indefinite isn't it. But that definition = is so ill defined that it means that anybody = working for gain is a professional, doesn't it? The builder is constrained by codes, and in many = instances by the need to get engineering = computations for things which are not directly = covered by those codes. He works under the = ultimate supervision of a building inspector or = some similar official, he cannot say "your house = is ready for you" until the inspecting authority = has inspected his work, deemed it compliant and = if necessary had any deficiencies corrected. However, my definition of a professional is = perhaps way too narrow, particularly in the = social context we seem to be dealing with. John -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist