> Are you talking about ages 15 through 18 ? >> big secondary schools in this part of Auckland aren't doing >> electronics Around that. 5th, 6th, 7th Form as I knew it, think it's called something like Year 11 to Year 13 now. Quite surprised. AFAIK it's still in the NCEA curriculum as an optional subject. IT course still active though. I'd have thought maybe micros would be touched on, if not electronics in general. But as pointed out, servicing is not the job it once was, what with throwaway items and board replacement. Even those still in media appliance repairs need digital skills and diagnostic equipment nowadays, especially for the big ticket items -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist