Wouter van Ooijen escribi=F3: >> A fast ICSP programmer is much faster than any bootloader = > = > can you substantiate that? > = > = I was talking about slow RS232 direct ICSP programmers that = rely on a poor hardware that seem to be the case of the OP. = Making them faster led them to veryfication errors. Then as a general case a ICSP programmer meant to be such a = programmer is faster. I'm aware that the flash is = programmed at the same speed no matter if you use a = bootloader or the ICSP. Now I realize that I missread the post and the OP was = talking about an intermediate ICSP programmer that read data = from RS232 and then programmed the device directly. =3D) -- = ------------------------------ Mauricio Giovagnini (Maunix) www.maunix.com.ar Cordoba, Arg. LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mgiovagnini -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist