>> A possible complication is that the cold "object" isn't a solid but >> really a localized flux of COLD air that rapidly cross the sensor >> area and that may be very near ( from 5 to 1 feet from the PIR). > >That's a problem as air is transparent to IR and doesn't exhibit any >significant black body radiation compared to hard stuff in the room. I heard of someone making a fire sensor that detected the hot air rising from a very small fire. It was designed for use in a plant, where there could be a small fire starting, and it was essential to detect it early and get it under control as the plant used a lot of combustible materials. IIRC it used a TV camera to sense the image changes due to the shimmer in a steady image from the hot air rising. Tests showed it could detect a fire before anyone could see the change in image. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist