I don't mind at all, for any postings I make. A link to my homepage is appreciated but not required. BTW, once you get the toaster oven and whatnot going, you start wishing you had a pick & place machine. That is a whole nuther adventure, but for the amusement of PIClist people, I bought one of these: http://www.bidservice.com/Browses/DHTML_PHOTOS.ASP?ProductID=13148&Mfg=MRSI&Mdl=501&InvNum=30063 Was $200K new in 1991, and I believe it can pick&place 0201 sized parts. DOS software originally on an AT 286 rackmount. That is pretty good vision recognition folks, 3 cameras, on a 16mhz? 286. Got it a year ago off ebay for approx a penny on the dollar of its original price, and had it shipped from ohio to california, where it sits in my shop waiting to be essentially completely reprogrammed with code that I'd largely have to write. If anyone in the bay area would like to check it out / do that reprogramming work (um...for free or nearly so), let me know. :) You get it workable smoothly from Eagle pick&place data, and you can use it whenever you'd like, forever. Ever ambitious to the border of unreasonable, J solarwind wrote: > By the way, I'm going to quote some of you (with credit) on my blog. I > don't make money off of it and it's purely a hobby blog so I hope you > all don't mind. If you object, please let me know immediately. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist