Just a little addendum... If curious, the boards I'm doing are the 3rd, and really hopefully final, proto of: http://www.celestialaudio.com/4ch/index.html the one pictured was done by hand with a soldering iron, since it was before I got going with the toaster oven. I got my paste from techni-tool.com kester R276, bought 3 syringes, almost out, lasted a year and did quite a few boards with it. p/n 488SO540 I also got two needles: 272PR021 and 272PR939. I use the larger one a lot, the smaller rarely. the plunger for the syringe came from digikey: KE1505-ND. I would recommend getting the larger needle of the above and something even bigger to make it easier to put paste down on largeish pads. But not really needed. J Jesse Lackey wrote: > Just another datapoint... my setup is: > > 4-element 1500W toaster oven with convection fan. I get good results > with this. I recommend spending a bit of $ for something good. Mine is > a Delonghi referb from ebay for $50. > > The temperature settings and thermometer display (if any) on the oven is > more than worthless, it may cause you to really overcook boards. I > spent $30 at jameco for a cheap meter with thermocouple. Much much better. > > Parts are sturdier than you think. Just don't be on the super hot for a > long time. > > Haven't tried lead-free, and probably never will as long as leaded is > available. Just doing minor rework on lead-free boards made at a CM > shows how much hassle it is. Lead is great stuff. > > Be mindful and wash your hands. > Goes without saying to never use the oven for anything but boards. > > I keep the paste in a mini fridge in a tupperware container, and I keep > food in the fridge as well. I don't see what the problem is, but I'm > also careful. > > I use syringes as well as stencils to place the paste. Syringes work > well but after awhile your hand starts hurting from having to maintain > pressure. > > For both syringes and stencils, my problem remains solder bridges on > tssop packages. 0402 and soics and whatnot are almost always fine. > > For cheaper stencils, get mylar at pololu.com. > > I just got my first metal stencil ($99) and a $200 holder for stencils > at stencilsunlimited.com. A big improvement, but I can tell I'm going > to get some tssop bridges on 3 boards I'm doing at this very moment, and > aligning the stencil to the board remains a pain. > > Once you start down this road, I recommend a hot air SMT rework station, > it is great if ICs wind up being askew, you can just heat them and > remove cleanly. I got mine for $150-ish at circuitspecialists.com. > Highly recommended. You can place parts faster and be less > fussy/worried when you know you can just pull them if there is a problem. > > My "reflow profile": > heat to 100deg C for a minute or two, to get everything relatively > evenly warm. > then heat to 200deg C or so over a minute or so; watch the solder paste, > it will melt in a slow wave, usually back to front of the oven. > when the paste in the front has melted, I usually let it go up another > 5-10deg over 10 seconds. > then I turn off oven, crack the door an inch, and wait for cooldown. > > Works pretty well all told. > Have a magnifier and I suggest really skinny solder braid - I have some > 0.025" stuff, mg chemicals #423 from digikey. Recommended. > > If you have big metal parts (like a large inductor) the paste for it is > what you should watch, it will melt last, and the warmup and 200deg C > times may take longer because of its thermal mass. Or: don't try to do > it in the oven, just do it by hand later. I haven't yet had a problem > but a friend did. > > And there you have it, a summary of a fair amount of experimentation. > > Improving things to get tssop paste to be the right amount consistently > and without a lot of fiddling of the stencil is the next important step. > I may spring for a kilobuck+ stencil holder system to solve this, some > research is necessary here. > > BTW, I'm making three boards with ~400 SMT parts on each right now, and > have no real concern about the baking process or damage. There's 12 > tssops and approx $400 in parts on each. You just have to really > inspect the tssops and use current limited power supplies for the > power-up moment. > > Good luck, it is fun but sometimes tedious... > J > > > > solarwind wrote: >> I recently read an article on the Sparkfun website regarding reflow >> soldering for surface mount components that can be done at home on any >> form of hot plate (stove top frying pan, skillet, etc...). >> >> I have several questions regarding this (that were unanswered in the >> article, and for which I was unable to find answers on the Internet). >> >> * I thought heat damages components. I was consistently cautioned not >> to overheat components during hand soldering. If the idea is to heat >> up the solder just enough to melt (and maybe a bit more so as not to >> form a "cold soldered" joint), then wouldn't reflow soldering do the >> same damage to components? >> >> * One of my DIP chips came with a notice saying that it should be >> "cooked" at 125 degrees Celsius prior to reflow soldering. I would >> never reflow solder a DIP chip, but this is interesting. Why do they >> have such requirements? Is it because of any possibility of trapped >> moisture in the chip that could rapidly expand in high heat and damage >> internals? What's the worst case for not obeying this notice? >> >> * I've also heard of reflow soldering "profiles". What exactly are >> these profiles? Is it a requirement that I adhere to them for homebrew >> reflow soldering projects? >> >> * How do I apply solder paste on pads? Do I just squeeze it out of the >> tube and rub it consistently over the pads so that all of it is >> connected? Does a very precise amount need to be applied discretely on >> each individual pad? How is this done? >> >> * Where to buy solder paste, are there different types, what brand, >> what type? Should I use flux? Should I pre-flux the pads or apply flux >> and then solder paste? >> >> * I've also heard that it is wise to calibrate or know where your >> skillet/stove reaches a certain temperature. What temperature is good >> for reflow soldering? How do I measure this temperature? >> >> * How long should the PCB be on the skillet/frying pan during the >> reflow soldering process? >> >> I know these are a lot of questions, but I am very interested in this >> cost-effective do-it-yourself technique to solder surface mount and >> fine pitch components on PCBs with ease. >> > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist