> The main problem is that there is TOO MUCH policing going on, of the wrong > kind. The basic principle of this list is that the ones who are doing the work get the power to do their work. Just like Olin sets the rules when he wants to give something away. Just like Stallman decides which license applies to the code he wrote (and gazillions of other programmers agree with him, and another gazillion don't and choose another license). I don't always like the admin's decisions, but I sure like that principle (maybe to a large extent because I don't have to do any work and the results are not bad). But if you do disagree violently with the admins there are basicaly two votes you can cast: You can vote with your feet. Leave the list, maybe start another one, or join a long-time-ago list-leaver that set up the yahoo piclist. It has only a fraction of the activity compared to the piclist, so it will be easy to police. Don't underestimate the power of voting with your feet, it was how Communism (or wathever it was that went by that name) was finally brought to its knees. The other alternative is to vote with your time. Join the admins, do the dirty work, and also get a shot at the policing work. It seems to me that setting the rules is the easy part. Applying them in practical situations, that's the real work. Or you can be like me, occasionally annoyed with what is going on, but not sufficiently (by a large margin) to vote in either way. And grateful for a list that can give the answer to a difficult question, should one arise. -- Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist