Russell McMahon wrote: > Please to let admins try and sort things out offlist That's part of the problem. People can't see you're doing something. All they see is stuff they think warrants a admin response but don't see any. Eventually they say something about it. You're not going to change human nature. It would be easier and more productive to change your methods. Back room secrecy and "trust me, we're taking care of it" doesn't fly. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist