Admin comment (fwiw) As far as I can tell by reading through this thread, TWO emails containing material unnacceptable for list posting were offlist emails that got copied to the list by other than the originator. And other 'naughty words' in response were poetic creations by list members - not originated by the member being criticised. The moderation system works reasonably well at keeping onlist content acceptable. If others want to be added to the list of moderatees so that they don't accidentally post naughty stuff that people have said to them in private, please apply offlist and it can be arranged. If the aim is to get the existing moderatee in deep doo doos then it seems to be working. But such actions seem to be a bit like kicking a man when he's down, and not really worthy even of we Westies. (Gargoyle may even know). Please to let admins try and sort things out offlist and refrain from posting private missives and thereby bypassing the in-place system. Many thinks in anticipation. Russell PS: FWIW, ESD damage may not produce immediately obvious results, and sometimes effects may be subtle or nonexistent. But too often to be useful bad things [tm] do happen. In addition to the odd bit sticking or connection being completely vapo[u]rised you may see hig lakage conditions, or parts which run subtly out of spec. While the anti-ESD salemen may on occasion overhype the problem, its real enough to be taken very seriously. R -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist