Peter Restall wrote: > Thanks for all the replies; there were some good suggestions there that > pointed me in the right direction. I've managed to do my first TT board > after a fair bit of experimenting and elbow grease. Brother OEM TN3130 > and > TN3170 toners (for HL5240 / HL5270 printers) seem to work alright for TT. > If anybody's interested, the method I used in the end was: Peter, looks pretty good. I do have a couple of questions. > 1). I used some fairly thick glossy magazine paper, with as little print > as > possible on it (regular paper had too many fibres, so touching up > tracks > afterwards was impossible without bleeding - and photo paper just > wouldn't > come off the board in the water). Have you tried printing on the backing of a shipping label (or similar)? Someone recommended this recently, and it sounds like it could have helped you avoid transferring the magazine print onto your PCBs. > 3). I used the 'thin paper' setting for the printer so the toner on the > page > wasn't fixed at as high a temperature. Are you sure this setting sets the temperature? IANAE, but AFAIK the media setting affects the voltage of the corona wire. Does anybody know for sure? > 4). The board was rubbed with acetone, scrubbed vigorously with a green > pan-scrub and washing-up liquid, and then rubbed with acetone again > until > there were no more smudges or marks on the paper towel. Do you think there would be any downside to using fine grit sandpaper, prior to using the dishwashing liquid? > 5). When ironing, I had the iron at its hottest setting and leaned on it > for > two minutes (no movement). Was rubbing (as opposed to leaning), producing bad results? > I flipped the board over and did the other > side the same. Then I ironed both sides of the board in a side-to-side > motion, with some downward force again. How did you align the two sides so perfectly? > 6). After ironing I stuck the board in cold water (without any soap) and > left it for 15 minutes. Do you think it is critical to use cold (as opposed to slightly warm) water, without soap? > http://custard.restall.net/bertha/images/dscn1664.jpg > http://custard.restall.net/bertha/images/dscn1670.jpg > http://custard.restall.net/bertha/images/dscn1671.jpg > http://custard.restall.net/bertha/images/dscn1674.jpg > http://custard.restall.net/bertha/images/dscn1675.jpg > http://custard.restall.net/bertha/images/dscn1676.jpg Good work! > Fairly pleased with the results of the board (very good toner coverage and > no broken tracks). The only disappointments are the black mottled look > and > the fact that my drilling was atrocious - really let myself down there :( Don't be so hard on yourself, the soldering job wasn't your best work either... just kidding! :-D > But overall results were comparable to photoresisting, so I think it's > definitely worth doing again since it's such a cheap (and pretty quick) > way. > Until I get my CNC machine sorted of course... You'll post some videos once it's working, right? Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist