Again you are attempting to dictate what I'm thinking, or my intents might be. Let me enlighten you. 1. I don't use these books or the C++ - they are worth nothing to me, I'm going to throw them out as I don't use them - throwing out equals waste on many fronts, especially if there is someone who has a use for them. 2. I don't require your insight on the definition of charitable giving. That is something for my conscience. 3. I don't have a basement, such things are not standard in Australia or in the UK anymore. I do have a bookshelf though. 4. I have in the past given such things away, even a Renesas development board - however I don't have to justify my actions to you unless you are considering being my significant other or moral guide, neither of which fills me with anticipation. 5. Are you deliberately vexatious? I believe Speakers Corner in Hyde Park is still in need of professional agitators - you do have to bring your own soapbox though. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 2/03/2009 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist