--===============1958804819== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by pch.mit.edu id n1L0qnZW011129 I started looking at temperature control inside a thermal chamber. That tank is actually a first-order system with some possible disturbances from different input a= nd ambient temperatures. Also a temperature sensor can be considered to have= a linear, very small time constant (or: high bandwidth). Thus, the system s= hould be stable by its nature. Since not much compensation might be needed, man= y people just use PID to tune up the time response of a temperature control= system. Recently I read a book written by Robert Pease, called "analog circuits, world class designs". The front chapters talked about how to realize feedback control loops by using a series of opamps, caps and resistors. It makes so much s= ense so that I found some link between all the control courses I took to the r= eal world controls. =20 As to the PID control, I found some modern designs simply use A/D, D/A, and a microprocessor, and = let the software guys to do the math (which takes time since microprocessor c= annot do calculus that easy, also discrete control involves different math). Th= ere is also a more analog, or old-fashioned way, like Bob did in the book, was j= ust to use many discrete semiconductors. (Although I guess a micro is always nee= ded somewhere) I wonder which way might be more appropriate? In an analog way, certainly a hardware guy can take control of most things; he can also get an easier and more direct continu= ous system model. But a digital way seems like easy-configurable and adjustable, but the credit won't be mostly mine anymore :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN=D0=C2=B0=E6=D4=DA=CF=DF=C9=E7=BD=BB=CD=F8=C2=E7=A3=AC=D3=EB=C4=FA=B5=C4= MSN=BA=C3=D3=D1=B8=FC=C8=AB=C3=E6=BB=A5=B6=AF=A3=A1 http://im.live.cn/msn9/=20 --===============1958804819== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --===============1958804819==--