Gerhard, I think we're at the far end of diminishing returns, neither I not you nor anyone else is benefitting from the conversation and I think we both have more productive things to spend our time on (like being happy :). If it's any consolation, I read all of your responses so far. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist