At one point there was some discussion about the PICKIT2 and the 'red' button. My unit has a black button, so does that mean its an old or new unit? What I am trying to determine is can this be used to do field updates. Target is a 16F887 processor, with the programming pins accessible in the product. I think, from what I can tell from the manual and scoping around the net is you can download the hex file to the PICKIT2, and then dump the contents to the target b pressing the button. Is this the case, as I can't find anything that spells it out as such. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist