Tamas Rudnai wrote:
>> Like when you go the box store and ask for a TV
>>     
> ...
>
> Well, this is not the same as the TV and the Fridge/Freezer is completely
> different things. A Command Line Interface (CLI) and a PlugIn (with no UI or
> some kind of GUI - depends on) are two different technologies for the very
> same thing. Traditionally a CLI application is much easier to integrate to
> anything, that's pretty much how Unix/Linux works nowadays - for example a
> nice GUI like DDD can be on top of the avr-gdb or avr-ice CLI debuggers.
>
> You can for example integrate a CLI application into MPLAB very easy on the
> project settings, and is very cool for things like preprocessors just like
> the one Olin has.
>
> Tamas
>
>   
Hi Tamas, you miss the point.

I told Charles that I investigated Olin's environment and dismissed it 
because I wanted MPLab integration, not 'DOS' programs. I never said one 
was better than the other. I also never criticised the environment for 
being the way it is. In fairness, I thought I was very objective in my 
evaluation of Olin's pic environment....

Olin took exception but only on the fact that I said DOS instead of 
commandline. I am fully aware of the advantages provided by CLI as well 
as GUI applications, and have spent many hours integrating the two 
together where it makes sense.

The point is that it is not integrated with MPLAB, by Olin's admission 
and insistence. I wanted a MPLAB environment (TV), the fact that I 
compared it to DOS (the fridge) instead of 'Command line' (the freezer) 
is inconsequential in the scheme of things. It is highly unlikely that 
Charles was mislead in any significant way, and further, Olin corrected 
whatever small misconception there may be. The point is that he is 
beating an already flogged horse and gnawing at the carcass like a hyena.

If you want to join him at the carcass, feel free. I am sure that Olin 
will find plenty of marrow in the bones still.

For the record, I spend much of my working day at the UNIX commandline 
(AIX/Solaris/Linux/etc.), and I like it a lot. Which is one of the 
reasons I hate the *DOS* prompt. I avoid it like the plague.

Rolf



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