Vitaliy wrote:

>>> Oddly enough my Brother-in-law is a graphic designer and is driven
>>> nuts by the requirement to know Java and Javascript for page layout
>>> jobs. Apparently one needs to know how to program to do web pages.
>> 
>> Why scary? This is rather obvious. While there are simple web pages
>> that don't need any programming (if you generate them with the right
>> tools), the ones that have the funding to be able to hire a good
>> graphic designer usually have sufficient functionality that some
>> programming is required (or at least the understanding of it...
>> similar to how you should be able to read PIC assembly even if you
>> don't use it and program in C).
> 
> Gerhard, I must disagree. I've worked with graphic designers and web 
> developers, and these are two very different positions. 

Right... just like firmware programmer and hardware designer -- yet this
list is full of people who do both :) 

It all depends on the specific situation. Just like in some (bigger)
companies and (bigger) projects firmware and hardware design are
strictly separated between different teams, there are many situations
where this is not possible or practical. 

IMO the exact same goes for graphic designers that do web page layout.
If they don't want to have to deal with HTML, JavaScript and the like,
they need to look for jobs that are big enough that they warrant a
programmer just for this; maybe he should team up with one? 

This is not much different from the situation of many here on this
list... If you want to get a contract developing a small device for
someone, it's not a good approach to go there and say "I'll only do the
hardware" -- you usually have to do it /all/ (or team up with others so
that the team does it all) if you want to get the job.

Gerhard
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