:: But the Elektor CNC machine was not called that afaik. It was :: called 'Profiler' :: I think (no. 1/2007 or so). This was before that, around 2004/5 I think. It was subject to a patent application as it didn't 'X' / 'Y' like a normal plotter machine, but used a turntable design (like a record player) and had upto 3 drills at 3 points of the circle - this allowed either rapid hole drilling for a PCB/artwork or a combination of router and hole driller. Complete versions or kits have not turned up second hand on Ebay as yet. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 28/01/2009 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist