> Yes, there is only 10mA flowing, so yes the PICs internal protection > diode will operate and likely safely prevent any damage, and yes the > PIC probably wont latch up or do anything strange Brent, you might likely probably ;-) be right, but I've learned from experience that even the briefest of out-of-spec transients can royally and permanently stuff a PIC Not having a pop at the OP, but I'm sick and tired of seeing penny- pinching that causes the end user more than a diode's-worth of hassle and inconvenience. So many products that fail if you even look at them the wrong way, and I wonder "why did they bother ?" The design, the putting together, the packaging, the marketing, the freight, the etc etc, and at the end of it all a piece of cheap junk David, at least do a few tests and assess the risk. You might be surprised, might not. Would love to know the results -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist