When I worked in a supermarket, the meat room would get their trainee butchers to ask the meat manager for left handed 's' hooks or the favourite, was to be told to ask someone for a long weight, as a carcass would need balancing. They would dutifully ask for one, whereupon they would be told ' wait there, I'll go and get you one ', after about 15 minutes one of the managers would by accident stroll by to find out why they weren't working, normally as they tried to explain it would dawn on them what had just happened. I suppose these days, people wouldn't take it as a joke or initiation ceremony, but as work place bullying or harassment. Colin -- cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 9/01/2009 Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7988359 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist