> Not much different than telling newbies to get some headlamp > fluid to fix their headlight problem on their car in a car forum, > or the myraid of jokes to be played on new electronic enthusiasts... Ours in the resin plant was to get the new lab rat out there with a tape to measure the oil length *. Direct them to the bulk soy tanks and leave them to it. Then wait for the factory manager to tell them to get the hell down from there * oil length is actually the ratio of oil to resin in eg paint base, not the depth of oil in a tank As a new lab rat once upon a time, I may or may not have been got. Let's just say I know what the top of the factory manager's head looks like -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist