>> NZ has centralized hot water? > > Most Soviet-era apartment buildings still rely on it, and it sucks. Some > bureaucrat controls when to turn your heat on, and when to turn it off - > so it's either too hot, or too cold Spooky I'd never heard of centralised hot water, and then I hear about it twice in one day. First you mention it, then I see an item on the news about the Russian gas not getting to Bulgaria. One place visited was the town's hot water 'factory', which ain't factorying much hot water at all right now. Gloomy-faced engineer points to 00000 on gas flow guage Cue follow-up scenes of freezing occupants of tenements boiling water on wood stoves and ranges, not looking very happy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist