"Jinx" wrote: >> NZ has centralized hot water? > > Yes. We're all issued with insulated buckets and ration cards Most Soviet-era apartment buildings still rely on it, and it sucks. Some bureaucrat controls when to turn your heat on, and when to turn it off -- so it's either too hot, or too cold. I still can't figure out why they did it this way. Perhaps, because the hot water is basically free? AFAIK, it came from the coal-fired power plants, which would otherwise waste the excess heat in a cooling tower. I remember a couple of surreal images a few years after the collapse of USSR, when the infrastructure began to break down. A huge hot water pipe broke, and for several weeks the water was pouring into a local canal. Winter city landscape, with clouds of steam rising from the small river... In another instance, a smaller underground pipe supplying hot water to a school developed a leak, resulting in a green oasis of grass and blooming irises in the school backyard, in the middle of the winter. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist