> (i.e. in many countries making a backup of a physical medium is > 100% legal, yet blocked by DRM, meaning to backup you have to > circumvent the DRM, which most consider pirate behaviour Apple kills iTunes DRM http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10550774 ....Apple gave the record labels that flexibility on pricing as it got them to agree to sell all songs free of "digital rights management," or DRM, technology that limits people's ability to copy songs or move them to multiple computers. Apple had been offering a limited selection of songs without DRM, but by the end of this quarter, the company said, all 10 million songs in its library will be available that way > Copying your own DVD for backup purposes is technically pirate > behaviour according to most It's illegal in NZ, so is format-shifting. I have no issues at all with making a "working" copy of eg PC software and putting the original on the shelf. Or converting my bought music to mp3 for a portable player -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist