Solarwind, I for one accept your apology. However, in the future, it might be prudent to accept the advice of the list members, and doubt your own opinions until you are sure of the cause and cure of the problem at hand. I say this not to be vengeful. I say it only because the members of this list have many years of experience with PIC's in particular, and microcontrollers/microprocessors in general. Therefore, with all of this experience at your fingertips, when a suggestion is made, it probably can be counted on as gospel. This is not to say you shouldn't have your own opinions. It only means that you may not be able to trust your own opinions until you too have some experience. And the fact that you have asked members of the list for help says that you want to learn. But to learn, you have to implement the suggestions given. From that, you will learn what does and doesn't work for a given problem. After a while, and it will be shorter than you think, you too will be giving valuable and trusted suggestions to the newbies and novices that follow in your wake. And just as an aside, I read your thought that the HLL would somehow perform the initialization of the PIC by itself. I have never heard of any HLL doing this, and even if it did, I wouldn't trust it until I had thoroughly tested it out many many times. Even then I think I would prefer to do the initialization myself. Anyway, this is my opinion of the situation. And as before, if you feel you must flame me. go ahead. I have my asbestos underware on. Just don't do it on the list. Regards, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "solarwind" To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 1:24 PM Subject: [OT] Apology For MPSIM Rant >I sincerely apologize to all of you for ranting about the > malfunctioning of MPSIM, when, in fact the problem was my own > ignorance. The ANSEL clearing fixed the problem. It was frustrating to > see that the code worked as expected in real life but not in the > simulator. Also, I took for granted that Microchip's own examples > would work as advertised, but they did not. > > However, I was not entirely at fault. It seems that MPLAB's > installation was corrupted. Whenever I hit a delay loop in my code, > the simulator got stuck and would not come out. After reinstalling, > the problem was no longer there. I was able to cleanly step over the > delay instruction as expected. > > Again, I sincerely apologize to anyone whom I may have offended in my > time of hair-pulling. I thank you all for the help that you have > offered when I had really needed it. > > Your friendly neighbourhood geek, > > -- > solarwind > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist