SolarWind, Try to watch all the videos from here: http://solder.net/technical/iPodtips.asp GREAT tutorials and you need to change your soldering tools :) I use the following: Sponge Isoproply No clean flux(Important ingredient!) thin solder wire(as mention) brass brush(to clean the tip after each session) antex soldering pen.....(as long as it works well) Regards, John -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist