M. Adam Davis wrote: > Our eyes converge because they can You have absolutely no way of knowing that, and in fact it's highly unlikely. So very many species, some quite distantly related, have pivoting eyes. There clearly was significant selection pressure to maintain this complex system. This in turn says that being able to swivel the eyes is a competitive advantage. In other words, it's useful. So let's say it correctly: "Our eyes move because that has survival value". > the primary reason for eye > movement to to avoid head movement. Convergence is simply "icing on > the cake" - a free tool we can use. More wild speculation. You can not say why a feature evolved. At best you can say that it appears to have certain advantages currently. These may be rather different from those that caused the feature to originally evolve. It's likely that stereo vision and the resulting better 3D comprehension of one's surroundings is a survival advantage. Allowing the eyes to converge reduces the processing power required for 3D perception and applies the high resolution area of the image sensor to the subject being observed. While there is no way to prove that's what caused the selection pressure for this mechanisms, it is at least a plausible hypothesis. It is quite unlikely this is merely a "free tool" that is "icing on the cake". If it were, it would very unlikely have been selected for so many different times. Just about all 2-eyed predators on this planet have significant convergence between the two images, from animals as distantly related as eagles and jaguars. Interestingly, 2-eyed non-predators generally have widely divergent gazes. Apparently, 3D perception is important when you're hunting, but a wide field of view is more important when you're being hunted. That kindof makes sense, but again, you can't say for sure that's why these systems evolved and were maintained. ******************************************************************** Embed Inc, Littleton Massachusetts, http://www.embedinc.com/products (978) 742-9014. Gold level PIC consultants since 2000. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist