> worked while the grasshopers* Maybe that should have been gross-hopers. Was meant to be grasshopper. >... protected by your buddies at the top On rereading I see that the " ...your buddies ..." COULD be taken to mean, the buddies of person or persons who I am replying to. That was not intended and my apologies if it came across that way. Here 'your' refers to the gross-hopers :-) Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist