"A K" wrote: > It's great that this should come up now, as tonight I completed a > successful toner transfer etch (and subsequent reflow) of 6 boards each > containing a 4x5 pad BGA with 0.4mm pitch. Some of the traces were 6 > mil and the yield was 100%. Toner transfer is definitely doable for > prototype work and there's nothing like same-day design turnaround. In > the past I have used toner transfer to complete double sided 12x12 inch > boards that would have been rather costly to have made due to the > dimensions. So it's doable and once you get the hang of it, a little > fun. Don't waste your time with dissolving paper transfer, use the > slick backing of mailing labels and scuff/rub the waxy surface with a > paper towel so the toner sticks. This peels right off instantly after > you've pressd it to the board and you're ready to etch. I use one of > the ubiquitous HP LaserJet 4M Plus printers with EconoMode and RET off. > Can't get more basic/inexpensive than that! Andrew, if you don't mind I'd like to clarify a few things because this is something I can definitely make use of (the instant gratification aspect is very appealing). - Which mailing labels are you talking about? Avery, FedEx? - I'm assuming you're printing on the side that the paper used to be on, after you peel the paper off? - How much do you have to rub the waxy surface in order for the toner to stick? - Do you have a favorite source of copper clad boards? - For double sided boards, how do you ensure the two sides line up? - Are there any tricks for the ironing part? Do you tin your boards after etching? In the past, I have used the photo method (2001), the plotter method (2002-2003, actually made hundreds of boards using this one), and relatively recently (2006) the direct toner transfer method. I wasn't very happy with the last one, as the toner would often rub off with the paper (plus it took a long time). By the way, what's considered the proper way to dispose of used etchant? Best regards, Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist