I previously sent this message, but forgot the [PIC] designation in the Subject. I haven't originated many messages to the list. With apologies to Wouter van Ooijen, the following is from his PIC tutorial website: First you know nothing; YOU ARE HAPPY You first learn about the chip: YOU LEARN AND USE ASSEMBLY You first find out there is an easier way, so you can spare some time to watch TV: YOU LEARN AND USE C You first find out there is a simpler way, so you can spare all the time in TV, cars, girls, bars, traveling, yatch, relaxing, etc: YOU HIRE SOMEBODY ELSE TO WRITE THE CODE. You first find out your money is going fast, so you decided to do some work: YOU LEARN AND USE JAL There are additional steps of course, but I'm stumbling along as I proceed past step one. I think that I have, perhaps, forgotten how to study. I'm a professional technician. I build engineers' prototypes at work. For that matter, I've had a soldering iron in my hand since I was a child. I think that's part of my problem. I know what I want to do; I know how the I/O pins are supposed to be utilized to design a circuit, but I have issues with learning the methodology of writing code. Too many resources? I have tutorials in Assembly, C, and JAL. I can follow examples in each to light or blink an LED. Once I accomplish that, I know enough to alter the existing code to light or blink an LED on an alternative port. That's where I stop. I don't know how to put the blocks together to proceed with my own ideas. There may be only 37 or so instructions to a 16F84 (for example), but it's knowing what to do with those instructions. So, how does one properly study to learn Assembly or any other language for that matter in the most efficient manner? I follow the JAL projects in Bert van Dam's excellent book, and perhaps I'm learning something, but I'm doing well in developing my own projects. I'm just expressing some frustrations. I'm eager to learn, but I think I have too much information at my disposal adding to the confusion. Should I forget Assembler and shelve the other language books? Should I forget Assembler and spend my time learning a high level language such as C or JAL? With any tutorial, I always like projects. I find it much more rewarding to see the results and what changes or errors bring. Supposedly, it is said that it takes 10 years of diligence to become an expert. Well, maybe I have enough time left that I can achieve some manner of proficiency as a programmer. :-) I'm essentially at ground zero, so there's a lot of work to do! With all my books et al, I just haven't quite began (or perhaps know how to begin) properly. So, how does a career electronics technician enter into the realm of [PIC] programming? Joe -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist