An existing push button N/O push to operate switch uses through hole techology. Use rate is reasonably high - target is 100,000 reliable operations in 5 years. It's behind a rubber boot and forces on it are liable to be "reasonably vertical" most of the time. A user would have to try reasonably hard to exert any noticeable sideforce on the switch. It's in portable equipment which is liable to be in regular use every dau in many cases and also liable to be subject to a reasonable amount of rough and tumble The switch is not liable to usually be subject to extreme forces and it's not a high vibration environment. [[No prizes for guestimating the appliocation. Nor comment probably]]. SO The manufacturer wants to change to a surface mount switch. I'm a bit dubious about the probable longevity of the mounting if solder alone is used. Adhesive could be added as a backup. Any thoughts? Ant experiences to relate? Vaguely related data points: - Solder is subject to creep tatigue. - Make a key ring from an old SIM RAM card with SMD RAM chips. Notice a few weeks/months on that all the ICs have invariably fallen off. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist