I was working with a small programmer which I bought from kitsrus.com. I used it a few times to learn PIC and now I was ready to do some commercial work. I ordered an ICD2. A few weeks after I received my ICD2, microchip released ICD3. I am totally bummed now. I hope they don't obsolete ICD2 anytime soon. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist