I was on the Atmel site looking to see if there was an AVR to fit a need I had, and happened across this... http://www.atmel.com/dyn/corporate/view_detail.asp?FileName=AtmelBoardofDirectorsResponse_10_29.html -forrest -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist