> You are overestimating the effectiveness of a real-world Stirling. I most certainly am not :-). Realistic stirlings run Th/Tc of 2:1 to 2.5:1 for a 50% to 60% Carnot efficincy and enthusiastic ones run 3:1 or more for a 66%+ Carnot efficiency. Good supplies of non-existeum help lomgevity in such cases. I allowed 20% end to end efficiency. >> Make that say 5 kg to allow 20% storage >> to output (easily in a Stirling's >> capability). The electrical to mechanical conversion can be quite good - say 80% +, so with a 2:1 Th/Tc that needs 50% of Carnot (0.5 x 0.8 x 0.5 = 0.2). Doable in serious applications. Higher hot temperatures will help this at the expense of 'engineering difficulties'. > Neither the Stirling nor any device could convert the heat energy of a > fuel with 100% efficiency, even in theory. This is a result of the > consequences of entropy on thermal rules. Stirling is not an exception. > Stirling can achieve very high thermal efficiency (in theory), which is > less than the energy contained in the fuel. Aye. E_theoretical max = E_Carnot = (Thot-Tcold)/Thot. > In reality, practical Stirling engines do not see extraordinarily high > efficiency. They still can in theory but there's materials and cost > limitations. 20% of fuel energy is entirely doable for serious designs. > Their remarkable property right now is being able to do > work off of small temperature differentials, thus being able to use > "waste heat" that is essentially free when available. Look how much a > car wastes! LTD (low temperature differential) Stirlings have their niches but are unlikelt to be overly useful in gross energy applications (such as the one being discussed.).Thermal "energy harvesting" is a very low efficincy niche area due to the Carnot efficiency limit as above. A cute auto waste heat user, based on the Carnot cycle, is the "Vuilleumier machine". Gargoyle knows. NO compression or pistons per se - just dual displacers. R >> Hydrogen gives you about 30 kWh/kg, so for 25 kWh at 100% efficiency you >> need ~1 kg >> Make that say 5 kg to allow 20% storage to output (easily in a Stirling's >> capability). -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist