One of my cute stories is about a neighbor and his wife. His wife do to a farm accident could not smell things very well. The man was having his breakfast and commented the toast smelled funny. As it turned out a small mouse had crawled down into the toaster to eat the bread crumbs and was in there when she had put the bread in and pushed the lever tostart the toaster. For the longest time I would always check the toaster for mice before using. Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist