> 2. Power one winding, measure back emf on it, and use your current > method for the other winding. At a minimum it increases cogging, > which means individual steps will happen more quickly and thus emit > sharper pulses Adam, works beautifully. I powered one winding with 5V via an 820 ohm resistor and captured the wave from the other winding. This power level is ample to introduce enough detent for even the pedantically slow Your thought about cogging hit the snail on the head. I'd been thinking along those lines myself, but mechanically, forgetting that the very simplest way was right in front of me Here's a comparison http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/pdg_slow.gif Top trace is unpowered, bottom is powered, on the same scale Additionally, the waveform on the powered coil is a lovely sinusoidal series of positive peaks that can go straight into a comparator. Would rather not try to capture that with the soundcard at this stage but will do at some time or my records. With both coils powered, signals from each are so clean and useable with minimal processing. The noise and bounce has gone and the motor is much less sensitive to vibration Thanks for kicking the day off on a positive note !!! -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist