> > shaft, or a loud clap nearby, will cause a small AC voltage on the > > windings > > But surely those are small signals compared to the result of true rotation? Yes, when the motor is turned by hand faster than say 4 or 5 steps per second, and the voltage goes up and the waveform is more defined. Slower than that though, vibrational noise can be a fair part of the output signal. I think a LPF will help, if it can attenuate noise without affecting the signal from a fast-ish turn (ie the higher output frequencies) . Although at that speed the step signal is a few volts. Some simple circuitry is probably all that's needed, my hope was that using a stepper as an encoder was on the web somewhere as a completed project Might have a look around the robotics forums And don't call me Shirley -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist