My impression about the UL standard and mark (or other north american stand= ards = for electrical industrial or domestic equipment) is that it is more centere= d = around fire hazard than electric shock hazard (compared to european = counterparts). A 24V device that is not designed correctly could very well = burst into flames but it still might be perfectly safe concernig electrical = shock. This would imply that also 24V devices needs a UL mark. Is this correct? Wh= ere = is the lower limits for exemption? I guess it would be an energy or power l= imit = rather than just a voltage in this case. /Ruben > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 6:44 AM, alan smith wrote: > > Low voltage...lower than 48V?? So my device that runs on 24VDC > > wouldnt have to be UL certified..based on the fact my external supply > > IS certified. > = > Not true. It depends on the device type and your external power supply. > It also depends on the customer. > = > Again, I am using UL508 as an example, it examines not only > the electrical part, but also the enclosure/construction. If your device > is falling under UL508 and is using an external Class 2 power supply > (Class 2 is the keyword here), the electrical examination will be quite > simple. But still there will be examinations/tests involved if the custom= er > wants UL listed mark. > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Ruben J=F6nsson AB Liros Electronic Box 9124, 200 39 Malm=F6, Sweden TEL INT +46 40142078 FAX INT +46 40947388 ruben@pp.sbbs.se =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist