How the hell an antenna may work fine with a 3:1 SWR ? :) On 10/24/08, Nate Duehr wrote: > Sean Breheny wrote: > > Hi Nate, > > > > I think I get what you are saying, but reducing power will not change > > the SWR (since it is a ratio). I think in reality that there is some > > threshold for reflected power that the transmitter has and above that > > level it will cut down on the output power to get the reflected power > > below that level. > > > > One thing which that article seems (in a quick skim) to fail to > > address is that reflected power can damage a transmitter. This > > aggressive power reduction MAY be necessary to protect the transmitter > > output stage. It isn't intended to protect the stuff outside of the > > transmitter (antenna, feedline, etc.) and so it would not be "better" > > if the transmitter did not cut back. That being said, it could be that > > some transmitters are too aggressive in doing so. > > > > Sean > > He does mention it as the reason the transmitters have that behavior, > and that ALL modern transistor-final PA transmitters are very aggressive > at protecting themselves. > > Often an antenna system that worked "just fine" at a 3:1 SWR on an old > tube rig will fold-back power on a modern rig to the point where the guy > on the other end can no longer copy you. > > The fold-back circuit can cause a much higher power "loss" overall in > your transmitted signal than having a non-resonant antenna system. Many > newer hams do not understand this. > > His point in the article, is that you can do the math (something > Amateurs do less and less these days... "plug and play" radio operation, > so to speak) and prove your overall system's performance. And the > numbers might surprise you if you take the rig's protection circuitry > into account. (Something that people also rarely do.) > > And then if you're like me, you go MEASURE it to see if it matches > theory, or find the reason why not. And personally, I prefer resonant > antennas, but if I have to work a band that just won't work with my > antennas, I use a tuner and "make the radio happy". > > Nate > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist