A great addition to the PICKit 2 is available on ebay - a small pcb with ZIF sockets for 18, 20, 28 and 40 pin PICs, wired to a six pin ICSP connector. I ordered one of these and it works great. I spot-checked for a number of PICs and the connections were correct for all of them. You can see the board here: http://cgi.ebay.com/PIC-kit-2-ICD2-COMPATIBLE-PROGRAMMER-EXTENSION-PICkit-2_W0QQitemZ170270483706QQihZ007QQcategoryZ4661QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem If the link doesn't work, search on "PIC kit 2 ICD2 COMPATIBLE PROGRAMMER EXTENSION" and you should be able to find them. Jon Xiaofan Chen wrote: > There are actually three versions. > 1) PICKit 2 Programmer/Debugger > 2) PICKit 2 + PIC16F690 based demo board (Starter Express) > 3) PICKit 2 + PIC16F887 based demo board (Debug Express). There was > an older version which uses PIC16F917. > > If you do not need demo board, 1) at US$35 is a good choice. > 2) is also a good choice as it has a socket which can adopt > all 8/14/20 pin PICs. These 8/14/20pin PICs do not have > ICSP debugging function in their silicon. You need to buy > special header (same as ICD 2) to debug the chip. > 3) is also a good choice as you can try out the debugging > function on the board. 16F887 (as well as 16F917) has the > debug function silicon inside. > > PICkit 2 Faq here: > http://forum.microchip.com/tm.aspx?m=270347 > > Regards, > Xiaofan > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist