Thanks for all suggestions They would all work and some I've already considered. In terms of "concealability" and cost, straps or wires still seem to be the best I'd tried Archimedes screws for a project a long time ago and found friction a problem, although they're fine for something horizontal like a lathe bed Wheeled drawer slides will be in there to guide and stop side friction Counterweighting is a good idea. Balance is the key to many great engineering feats -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist