William "Chops" Westfield escribi=F3: > On Sep 27, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Mauricio Giovagnini wrote: > = >> So for many people the PIC32 core is not an option until they can = >> deliver a Linux kind of platform with them. > = > This is a failing of the embedded OS market rather than of the PIC32 = > itself. Until pretty recently, a 32bit cpu has always meant a system = > with external ram, and usually LOTS of it (especially compared to any = > microcontroller.) So, surprise, operating systems for 32bit CPUs = > require a lot of RAM. = Yes, is true and a very good point. The problem is that the = levels of abstraction that we are used to have in a PC = platform, allows to deploy complex applications in lesser = time than doing them from scratch. This is an important = point I think because without those abstraction layers it = will take just too much time , too much effort and probably = the product will reach the market too late. The developers = team has to focus only in the logic of their business rather = than in every aspects of the platform. I've seen very good = applications from small devices, to routers and Base Station = Transceivers to have a linux inside with excellent results = at least according to my point of view. > That doesn't make a 32bit CPU with small = > amounts of RAM either useless or unimportant, it just makes them = > unable to use linux. There are other OSes, plus the usual gamut of = > homebrew kernels; it will be interesting to see whether anything = > interesting happens WRT rom-based, RAM-poor OSes in the near future. = > (perhaps not; there have been small ARM-based chips out for quite some = > time now with very similar limitations, and I haven't heard about any = > breakthroughs...) Of course, you are right. I still think that the PIC32 is = an excellent 32bit microcontroller, I was just wondering = about it being a so good device, it could take advantage of = it by taking some market share on another high level = applications like those delivered with a linux inside. Having or not a embedded linux, the PIC32 came to stay, and = with its aggressive price will give a tough market fight. -- = ------------------------------ Mauricio Giovagnini (Maunix) www.maunix.com.ar Cordoba, Arg. LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mgiovagnini -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist