Peter wrote: > Transportation is needed to make the others work. So those areas should be, if > not regulated, then at least supervised and taxed on a very nonlinear scale that > would discourage and punish speculation (e.g. capital gains rate on property > value increase by resale set to wipe out most gains if no major improvements > were made etc etc - and this is a lame example I just thought up). But I am not > an expert, and I am not in the US. We actually pay for PUBLIC transportation with Municipal Bonds, which give indexed returns (decent ones, but not mind-blowing) at a significant tax discount to the holder in the form of often both local and Federal taxes. But people saw greater returns in these other "securities" (what a stupid word to describe pieces of paper... pure fiction/marketing) and couldn't resist. How would you recommend that people be properly motivated to buy the less exciting, consistent "slow growth but very secure" investments like Municipal Bonds that pay for our city projects, when they see the double-digit returns on riskier things? Just telling people the other things are much higher risk, doesn't seem to grip their minds very well until something like today happens. > Anyway one cannot help but notice that there is one unregulated issue among the > ones listed above: housing. Or, at least, it wasn't until now. Happy > coincidence, or was it the hand getting its own way insidiously. Perhaps it > liked the sound of popping a large, overinflated balloon (that could not have > existed if certain authorities had not looked the other way for years). I think the hand was held back from slapping the bejeezus out of some folks in housing. You just can't offer so-called NINA loans (No Income, No Assets) to people and get away with it. The hand's coming for a whoopin' on that one sooner or later. Problem is, we held it off until the owners of these loans were so buried in them as they were sold upstream to the big investment banks and insured by the world's largest insurers, that now we're going to have to throw money on the bonfire to appease the hand. :-) > I have not been following the issue after the Miami disaster, are there still > realtors selling un-insurable prime land suitable for lotus flower harvesting or > has that market cooled down now ? Haven't followed that one. Most of Florida is a real-estate nightmare, and has been since the real Pirates of the Caribbean days, though. Sane people see this, not many sane people investing there apparently, though. The old saying, "I have a bridge to sell you" still holds true. The problem was, this market hid what was being bought and sold from the middle-men and didn't react until the bad debts were gobbled up by the top of the food chain. Now the food chain has a very bad case of indigestion. Nate -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist