Bob Axtell wrote: > When I got my mortgage about 5 years ago, I looked around carefully and > I bought one that was clean and somewhat old-fashioned (fixed rate loan > over a fixed amount of time) because, after looking into the others, I > decided > that they were fraudulent. > > Five years later, I discover that those loans WERE fraudulent, just like I > thought. And everybody that bought them is in trouble. I am in no trouble > whatever. > > Now, the crooks that hatched those frauds are reaping the results of > their flimflam operations. I say, let them go under, good riddance. > > Banks may change hands, but only large depositors (with over > USD$100K) will be at ANY risk. Everybody else will not lose a thin dime. I am staunchly pro-free-market, and strongly oppose government intervention. However, FWIW, I am convinced that government intervention is necessary. I am further convinced that there are enough rational people in Washington, and that it will eventually happen (the only question is, in what form and whether it will happen this week or next). The government should bail out the market for two reasons. 1. The market failed in large part because of government's actions. It created two monsters -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and although officially they were not backed by the government, there was an expectation that should they fail, the government will bail them out. As a result, instead of performing the function they were originally designed for (helping people purchase houses), they were trying to make money for their shareholders by getting cheap credit (cheap, because of the notion that "they can't fail", see above), and then reinvesting that money in higher yield (= high risk) markets. The Fed was also keeping the interest rates artificially low, encouraging people to get mortgages that they could not afford. 2. The cost of inaction is likely to exceed by far the cost of the $700B package that the Treasury had asked for. Right now, there is a severe credit crunch that affects everybody, from big companies to small businesses to individuals. Financial institutions are reluctant to lend to each other, and to businesses. Therefore, companies that are financially sound are starting to go under because they don't have enough cash for day-to-day operations. Last Thursday, I was up at 2 am (babysitting), watching C-SPAN. Peter Orszag, the Director of US the Congressional Budget Office, was giving a testimony on the proposed $700B package. Here are some of the points from his speech (as I remember them): - The consequences of inaction will be very serious. Everybody (not just the big investors) will be affected if nothing is done. Suppose you are a small business owner, and you need money to purchase inventory to make your widgets. The bank however won't lend you the cash you need to buy the inventory. You can't make the widgets, therefore your business isn't generating revenue, so you go out of business. Your employees are now out of a job. They also will have a very hard time getting a mortgage, or a car loan. - The package can be used to address two problems currently affecting the financial markets: companies that are at the risk of faling because they don't have enough cash for operating expenses (liquidity) and companies that were in bad shape even before the crisis (solvency). - Solving the problem of liquidity may cost the taxpayers nothing, in fact it can even make them money. The best way to make it work according to Orszag, is to have reverse auctions on selected "trenches" of assetts (assets that are very similar, so the government isn't choosing b/w apples and oranges). "Reverse auction" means that companies will try to underbid each other in trying to sell their mortgage-related assetts to the government. If the government holds these assets long enough, it may even be able to sell them at a profit. - Solving the problem of solvency basically means giving money to companies that don't simply lack operating cash, but are in bad shape financially. If the Treasury decides to bail out such companies, it's a virtual guarantee that taxpayers will lose money for sure. Although again the cost of this subsidy is likely to be less than the cost of doing nothing. I think if done properly, the proposed measure can have a zero (or even negative) net cost, and is likely to avert a rather nasty economic situation. > Am I affected? Nope, not in the least. I save money by getting my > dental work done in Mexico. You must be one of the very lucky few. Vitaliy -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist