FWIW I've been using 0.2mm (8mil) drilled vias all the time on 0.8 pitch BGA's - dogbone from the pads to the offset encroached-mask vias. On 0.5 pitch I have used a filled 0.35mm pad via-in-pad, 0.15mm drill, plated flat & flush. Needs .05mm traces to get out. But those are on 40mil thick boards. 6mil drills might be a problem on thicker. And, I don't know the cost trade-off between microvias and filled vias. Also, I am not using either of these methods on production-quantity boards. But I can get them fabbed that way, routinely, no problem. It's worth discussing with your fabricator/assembler as an alternative to microvias. Gary Crowell, CID+ Micron Technology > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Vasile Surducan > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:33 AM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [EE] BGA board processes > > DDi is good but a little bit expensive. > You didn't say what is the ball diameter so we can compute the > reduction size of the footprint. If the ball is 0.4mm diameter the > pad could be 0.35 to 0.4mm. > Which means you need no microvia, just a 8mil (0.2mm) through via with > 18mil (0.45mm) outer ring. > Microvias is for 0.5mm pitch or lower. > > Vasile > > On 9/22/08, Zik Saleeba wrote: > > TQFP is just too big for the project I'm working on so I'm > looking at going > > to BGA for the first time. The process of breaking out > those signals seems a > > little tricky. The package I'm looking at has 100 balls > with 0.8mm spacing > > and I've been having some difficulty finding vias small > enough to route the > > signals out using conventional board processes. The vias > are just too large > > too allow enough clearance between the pads. A little > reading around the web > > seems to indicate that at this density I should be looking > at microvias > > rather than conventional vias. > > > > Have I got this right? Do I really need to go to a pcb fab > which can do > > microvias? It seems like this counts out the cheaper-end > fabs I'd normally > > use. Any suggestions on where I should go for fabrication? > I'm only looking > > at prototypes and short runs and my budget is tight. > > > > Thanks, > > Zik -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist