> The top German tanker (Michael > ...?) was killed by a Firefly in Normandy the day after having carried out > the most amazing single tank demolition derby on record. 20+ armoured > and/or > tracked or support vehicles destroyed in under 10 minutes (probably with > minimal loss of life)(relatively).While at its work it was fired on at > point > blank range by a British tank with no effect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Villers-Bocage If you like inspiring accounts of achievements against impressive odds this is worth reading. It's a vast shame (he said again) that such games result in people dying - the "competitive" aspects are astounding. Quite how you retain this and eliminate war is a problem. Sport just doesn't manage. Not bad for a single Tiger tank: "Wittmann and his crew pushed down the main road towards Villers-Bocage and, in the following fifteen minutes, destroyed ten tanks, two anti-tank guns, and a dozen or more half-tracks and Universal carriers.[12] " Sadly for him, next day the Fireflys came. Michael Wittman. Top German tank commander. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wittmann Killed by a Firefly the day after this most astounding incident. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist